NO2 HS2

With all due respect to the anoraks,when hs2 is complete what are your chances of being alive.you can’t stop progress it’s more than welcome

Can anyone actually tell me how deep the tunnel under my HOUSE in Northenden will be?
From the maps ive seen it looks like its really is directly under my house. I suppose the vibrations will cause structural damage and anyway who would want to by a house directly over a huge tunnel. Im in shock.

London is fine we all know about the Tube. But during the work to build this and then years of running it before we know if its causing structural damage would mean my house is unsalable until then. thats maybe 20+ years away. Would you buy a house knowing the tunnel was going directly under your home? thought not…

Its a typical case of not in my backyard. Those not affected its great…try knowing your house value for at least 20 years is basically zero or hugely devalued. Dont suppose you would be happy either.

Ill have my house valued then when its clear ist having an impact i shall apply to the government to buy it. I should imagine the hardship (drop in value) needs to be understood even if its a tunnel. I would guess right now its dropping due the uncertainty that will exist for years.

Its nothing to do with already existing tunnels its the impact on the value of homes over the proposed HUGE tunnels which leads to buyer uncertainty and lower value of the property. Is that too much for someone to understand that simple issue?

Im not sure you can compare apples for apples like that. Property in london is at a premium. Property in Northenden is not London – if it was i would imagine i would not have the same concerns. Frankly you are arguing a point that makes little sense. We do not live in london. We do not have the same premium property prices as london. I must say your apparent desire to quash my concerns with quoting London is a little worrying. If you really think Northenden in anywhere similar to London then perhaps you have spent too much time down there and less time listening to the concerns of real manchester poeple.

“The tunnel under South Manchester will be about 30 metres below the surface. Other options for the route into central Manchester looked at but rejected included: a route to the east of Knutsford near the end of the second runway at Mobberley; a route from Warburton past Partington and Carrington as far as Stretford, with a tunnel from there under Chorlton-cum-Hardy and Fallowfield to the proposed portal at Ardwick; and a tunneled route parallel to the M602 as far as a new station in the Salford area.” There is unoccupied and vacant land at Sharston Industrial and this route should be considered in the planning as it will minimise blighting effects on residential properties in Northenden.

Seriously this is a good thing for manchester. The tunnels will be much deeper than the foundation of your house if 30 meters is correct that’s yhe hight of fifteen doors. If they can build a new tunnel under the huge buildings in London and not damage them then your little house is perfectly fine. It will not effect house prices any more than being in Northenden already does. As for the Anoraks rebuilding branch lines is all well and good but when the west coast main line is full to capacity in a few years then what? Build another line along side it? More damage would be done that way. Maybe we could put all the freight on the roads so the rails are free for passengers? I dont think you’d like that either. The answer is simple build a new line reliving the old. More freight can use the existing victorian network getting it off the roads. The money used for HS2 was never money for other rail projects. In fact the electrification of the Manchester to Liverpool line is going ahead as I type. If a local line is to be improved or opened again it will not come from central government in the form of a huge cheque. Private firms and councils will have to do it just as Chiltern are.

People tout the benefit as greater access to the North, but unless government effects business – or government offices- moving north, all that will happen is that people will find it easier to commute to London- and the north / south divide will grow ever wider.
Also the cost of the tunnel under south Manchester must be astronomical, when the train will not be running at high speed, so why not just use a surface line?

This plan is a very bad one and I dont agree with it at ! I live in Northenden and I do not want a tunnel under my house. We already have rail links , Air travel , Road , so why spend all thay money for and extra 41 mins ! you will take business from other forms of transport and can not guarantee that people will want to use the HS2 or need it I think you will be running on empty seats with all that money invested where it could be used else where that is more important. Whoever makes these decisions is going to make England more in Trouble and not help at all.

Garry

Despite your grammatical errors and spelling mistakes I have still managed to deduce that your comments are arrogant, condescending and rude. If you are unable to understand the concerns of residents living above the proposed tunnel I suggest you keep your thoughts to yourself.

As a resident who lives near Piccadilly rather than in your area I wanted to mention that the site of the proposed new station is madness. Rather than redevelop the old Mayfield station to the south of Piccadilly, which has sat there crumbling and abandoned for decades, the proposal is to put it on the north side – the area earmarked includes a recently refurbished office block, a recently extended and refurbed multi storey car park, and worst of all blocks of apartments including the one I live in.

While I may be guilty of nimbyism, and I actually support HS2 and think it’s long overdue, this proposed siting of the new station causes much much more disruption than it needs to.

Residents in this area moved in when the only other ‘residents’ were prositutes and drug dealers. The council wanted to promote city centre living and mixed use developments and we were early investors in the area, living in it through it’s gradual transformation. We have had to put up with large building works in the area on a number of occasions, and residents did so as they were ultimately contributing to the success of the area. And we are repaid for this commitment to our area by having our homes demolished needlessly.

Demolishing all of the proposed buildings will add tens of millions to the budget for HS2 and blight the area that residents have gradually improved over the last decade. We hope we have your support to push for the siting of the new station on the south side of Piccadilly instead.